COP26 and climate change in five podcasts

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The annual UN climate conference, COP 26, is being held in Glasgow, Scotland, until November 12. Today a ” digital rally for climate justice »Is organized under the leadership of the Swedish Greta Thunberg and the Ugandan Vanessa Nakate. Many media initiatives support this rich news about the future of the Earth. And podcasts are not left out.

“While global warming is already disrupting our lives, are we finally going to act? “

Mathieu Vidard asks the question in the form of an annoyed injunction in a program of ” Earth Square », On France Inter (in partnership with L’Obs). The climate is changing, the effects are already very real, but how to move from awareness to political action? Three guests were interviewed: Amy Dahan, science historian, specialist in climate negotiations; Magali Reghezza-Zitt, geographer, environmental and city specialist; and Rémi Noyon, journalist at L’Obs, who coordinated the special issue of the weekly published on the eve of COP26.

The first is sorry that the commitments made during the COP21 in December 2015, which led to the Paris agreement, have remained almost a dead letter, and is projected on the COP26 which is currently taking place: “I think we will re-examine the promises of each other, some very vague, often very literary, not very quantitative, with impressive long-term objectives but without knowing how we were going to achieve them. “ The second says “Do not expect miracles” and warns against the temptation to “Make the COPs weigh what they cannot do”, namely the concrete implementation of actions, which are the responsibility of States and stakeholders. “Even if the current commitments were kept, we would go towards + 16% of greenhouse gas emissions by 2030, when we would have to reduce them by 45%! “ She points to the persistence of “Two statements that are meant to be positive: a solution for each problem; and men have always survived ”.

Rémi Noyon sees it as a taboo, paradoxical: « On suggests that we will be able to get there, when we are in an already critical phase, which is summed up in the formula: “manage the inevitable and avoid the unmanageable” ”. Magali Reghezza-Zitt assumes this apparent contradiction. « Ohas for the first time the capacity to foresee, to act and not only to suffer, wants to believe the geographer. We are going very slowly, it’s true, but things are moving, in urban planning, in construction, because we no longer have a choice: in the long term, economic activities themselves are threatened, there are thousands of jobs that will disappear, businesses that will collapse, that will close. “ It remains to move from words to deeds … “Stop talking to always say the same things, launches an auditor of “La Terre au Carré” for the organizers and speakers of the COP. We are waiting for results that will speak for themselves. ” Pascal Galinier

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COP26 and climate change in five podcasts

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